Spinning your bike around

[maccecht]

All the old hands will know how to do this but for the uninitiated if you want to spin your bike around on its axis this is how it is done. Dont drop it though it could get expensive.
YouTube - Spinning a 460lb sportbike on it's kickstand

[Olly]

<waits for the stories of bent and snapped sidestands>

[a_morti]

<waits for the stories of bent and snapped sidestands>

Or folk who tried it on a ducati where the stand is fixed to a cast part of the engine

[Splat]

I've never bent or snapped my sidestand. Precisely because I don't turn the bike on it.

But then again, I do WD-40 my brakes so they are always nice and shiny (an accident investigator and a police officer told me that in a accident dirty/rusty disks can put extra liability on the rider since his machine is not in fully working order).

[Horse]

Saw someone demo this but using the mainstand on their BMW.

All well and good apart from managing to get it spinning faster and faster . . .

[Skub]

If you can't trail it around using manforce don't buy the thing. Old and weak people shouldn't invest in heavy bikes.

In fact there is no good reason why any bike should be overly heavy.

[Bigyin]

I dont know anyone who has snapped a side stand doing this and done it loads with sports bikes ......... then again i have never tried it on "ze panzer"

[Big Pete]

If you can't trail it around using manforce don't buy the thing. Old and weak people shouldn't invest in heavy bikes.

In fact there is no good reason why any bike should be overly heavy.

apart from being built in the 70's?

[Pirahna]

If you can't trail it around using manforce don't buy the thing. Old and weak people shouldn't invest in heavy bikes.

In fact there is no good reason why any bike should be overly heavy.

Which brings to mind the old bloke who used to go the tea hut at High Beech.

He lived in an olld peoples home and owned a K100. If the weather was decent on a Sunday one of the nurses would get the BM out the nursing home garage and point it in the right direction. He'd ride to the tea hut, have a chat, tea and cake then somebody would turn the bike round for him and he'd ride home.

[Skub]

apart from being built in the 70's?

That's what I mean Pete. There's an excuse for big Zeds and the like being heavy,it was over 30 years ago ffs,but Kawasaki built one of the lightest litre bikes ever in the 04/05 ZX10R. Using the same technology there is no reason for comfy touring bikes to be carrying a ton of lard around.

Light makes for good throttle response with a minimum of power and a machine that is easily manoeuvred when pushing.

[Big Pete]

keeps the cost down tho, not as much use of mag alloys, plus all the touring shite that gets added, uprated gennys, etc etc, no single thing adds a lot of wieght, but it all adds up, plus (I reckon) the tourers tend to have a more upright seating position which in turn means that when rolling it around they feel even heavier than they are.

[Skub]

keeps the cost down tho, not as much use of mag alloys, plus all the touring shite that gets added, uprated gennys, etc etc, no single thing adds a lot of wieght, but it all adds up, plus (I reckon) the tourers tend to have a more upright seating position which in turn means that when rolling it around they feel even heavier than they are.

You know what?

I believe bike manufacturers invest all of their technology in sportsbikes and everything else aside from that is either a parts bin special or simply uses lesser materials because they know they can get away with it.

If you can build a super light sportsbike,by the time you add a few panniers and shit it isn't going to be drastically heavier.

A sportsbike owner can make his bike into a comfy tourer by spending no more than a few hundred quid at most. Why can the manufacturer not make this bike already?

Because the will isn't there.

[Big Pete]

You know what?

I believe bike manufacturers invest all of their technology in sportsbikes and everything else aside from that is either a parts bin special or simply uses lesser materials because they know they can get away with it.

If you can build a super light sportsbike,by the time you add a few panniers and shit it isn't going to be drastically heavier.

A sportsbike owner can make his bike into a comfy tourer by spending no more than a few hundred quid at most. Why can the manufacturer not make this bike already?

Because the will isn't there.

Absolutely, because the driving force in marketing terms is sportsbikes for most manufacturers. Harley don't bother because theres absolutely no need for them to.

[Scootabout]

A sportsbike owner can make his bike into a comfy tourer by spending no more than a few hundred quid at most. Why can the manufacturer not make this bike already?

Because the will isn't there.

Good question. My Pan ST1300 weighs 286 kg dry. Thats about 110kg more than a litre sports bike. Sure, things like shaft drive add weight, but 110kg? If it meant it was way more robust and reliable, fair enough, but how, exactly?

[Scootabout]

Incidentally, I watched a guy at the Honda dealership in Coulsden rotate a Pan on the sidestand. Quite impressive.