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Can somebody explain the difference ...? I want to buy a TV that will be used mainly for a PS3 but also potentially BluRay movies ...


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Old 28-11-08, 21:54   #1 (permalink)
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Default HD ready vs "Full HD"

Can somebody explain the difference ...?

I want to buy a TV that will be used mainly for a PS3 but also potentially BluRay movies ....

Now HD ready seem to be about half the price .....
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Old 28-11-08, 22:33   #2 (permalink)
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As usual I stand to be corrected, HD Ready is supportive to 1080i where as Full HD is 1080p. 1080 is the number of lines displayed, SD is 568 and the i/p is the way the tv decodes/displays the signal.
1080p is the best and most expensive, 1080i is pretty much good enough.

edit: thinking about it... HD ready may only display up to 720p
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Old 28-11-08, 22:44   #3 (permalink)
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From what I can gather, HD ready was a term fought long and hard for by the industry and retailers as a way of selling display units that are not capable of displaying True HD 1920 x 1080. This means the set would still be able to carry the all important HD symbol (cracking selling tool) but in fact it would only be capable of half the resolution of a true HD tv, although to be fare it is still twice that of standard television.

You will be hard pushed to spot the difference between 720p (HD ready) and 1080p (full HD) on sets smaller than 37". If your going above this size I would advise to go for 1080p no question, otherwise you will notice when you are up close as the picture will look a little softer in 720p and you will see the pixels are much larger or spaced further apart. Add to this that with Sky HD and Blu-ray pumping out 1080p you are never going to get the full benefit of these formats with a HD ready tv.

Not to sure about this but both are I think full HD 1080i and 1080p as both have exactly the same resolution but one is interlaced and the other progressive which is very slightly the better of the two.

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Yes, "HD Ready" is a con that means it can receive and decode HD signal, but not display HD images (i.e., they are displayed in "low definition"). "Full HD" if can do all that and display HD images in HD.
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From what I can gather, HD ready was a term fought long and hard for by the industry and retailers as a way of selling display units that are not capable of displaying True HD 1920 x 1080. This means the set would still be able to carry the all important HD symbol (cracking selling tool) but in fact it would only be capable of half the resolution of a true HD tv...
Sounds like "Vista Capable". Stick a misleading label on some shite. By the time the punters realise they've been conned it'll be too late for them to do anything about it and the industry watchdogs will bark and then roll over to have their tummies tickled.



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full HD is 1080p

think that's the number of rows of pixels or something

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From the horse's mouth:
http://www.eicta.org/fileadmin/user_...heet_logos.pdf

The Almax theory is rather too conspiratorial. The HD Ready label was put on when there were sets (quite a lot) that couldn't cope with the copyright element (HDCP) in most HD broadcasts and hence would show nothing when fed (e.g.) the SkyHD channel. For a while there was no thought put into whether to label the 'full HD' (1920x1080) sets differently. I think the 1080p label is good as it shows the capability and can allow for eventually higher defs, rather than a 'really full HD' label.
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cool - thanks for the answers ....
So really full HD is the way to go .. even though I want just a "small" TV at 32 "
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Default Re: HD ready vs "Full HD"

Like Almax says, 1080p and 1080i resolution is exactly the same, p is a progressive scan I.E. it scans the image onto the screen in one go, i is an interleaved scan I.E. it scans alternate lines onto the screen and then scans the other set of lines on the second pass. p is obviously better.

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Some HD ready sets perform better than full HD sets.

just cos its full HD doesn't mean much - the set has to be able to decode the information and display it properly, and some manufacturers are, as you might expect, shit at it. But they will sell the sets as full HD just cos of how many lines it can display, and many will buy them...
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Sounds like "Vista Capable". Stick a misleading label on some shite. By the time the punters realise they've been conned it'll be too late for them to do anything about it and the industry watchdogs will bark and then roll over to have their tummies tickled.
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Some HD ready sets perform better than full HD sets.

just cos its full HD doesn't mean much - the set has to be able to decode the information and display it properly, and some manufacturers are, as you might expect, shit at it. But they will sell the sets as full HD just cos of how many lines it can display, and many will buy them...
Agree fully with that statement - I've got a 4 year old non-HD Panasonic 42" plasma that has been properly set up by an ISF tech.
Picture is far better than the majority of HD-Ready and Full HD sets that I have seen, including those in friends houses running Sky HD and other 1080 inputs.

Just like bike set up I suppose, if its not set up well it will be shite no matter the quality....
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Agree fully with that statement - I've got a 4 year old non-HD Panasonic 42" plasma that has been properly set up by an ISF tech.
Picture is far better than the majority of HD-Ready and Full HD sets that I have seen, including those in friends houses running Sky HD and other 1080 inputs.

Just like bike set up I suppose, if its not set up well it will be shite no matter the quality....
What did the engineer do to set it up?

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What did the engineer do to set it up?

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Turned it on and gave him a bill for £200 I expect.
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What did the engineer do to set it up?

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