IAM Statistics

Done a very quick search and don't think this has been posted before

http://www.iam.org.uk/images/stories..._Report_v7.pdf

What is it?

I can see it's a pdf. Why do I want to waste 5 minutes downloading it?

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You still on dialup?

It is a document entitled
IAM Motorcycling Facts.
Oddly considering the title of the thread it is concerning statistics of motorcycling (accidents as it happens).

I have no idea why you would want to waste your time downloading it tho.
If it sounds like something that might interest you you wont be wasting your time, and if it doesn't, well, you wont waste your time.

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Aye, I'm loving the grey boxes with the relevant (IAM: How to be a better rider) quotes that would allegedly prevent that kind of accident statistic.

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Whether or not I'm on dialup isn't the issue here. We've got a heading "IAM Statistics" a sentence that tells us nothing about the subject and a link to a pdf called IAMmotorcyclist_Report_v7 which also tells us nothing about the subject. A little more information wouldn't have gone amiss, would it?

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Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color. Don Hirschberg

I would hate to re-ignite any sort of anti/pro IAM thing............but IMHO this report makes a very good job of bringing all the various different factors that have a bearing on our staying alive together. Taking that a little further, I would love to see it made a standard hand-out by both private and organisational training agencies.................................what say the pro's?

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Cranky old shuffler who rides unfashionable bikes slowly whilst reciting Roadcraft.

Quite right, maybe not in the IAM format, but it does make interesting reading. I would have thought that any regular readers of this forum would be able to have a good guess at where most of the injuries and eaths are occuring, and unfortunately the facts bear it out, it is leisure riding on A-roads and unclassified roads. The typical SMIDSY accounts for a far smaller proportion of the serious injuries and deaths.

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TALK TO ME OR THE BUNNY GETS IT!

I've already commented on this elsewhere a month ago...

"it's all a bit vague... doesn't actually produce any evidence that post-test training cuts accidents (there's no claim that the older riders who allegedly have few accidents have taken any training at all!), and the conclusion that younger riders are at risk is probably skewed by the unqualified moped and 125 riders who are overrepresented in casualty figures, something that doesn't get a mention.

"One thing that is worth flagging up is that 50% of the fatalities occured when the rider left the road and hit a roadside obstacle - so how much real use is body armour? As I've said before, it's really only designed to cushion the impact of falling from the height of the bike (and a bit for highsides) to ground level, not absorbing the energy generated by the weight of your body stopping suddenly against a tree."

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Might not be THE issue, but it's certainly AN issue if it take five minutes for you7 to download such a small file.

No, hence I supplied you some further information.
Still not happy and blithering on about it? Theres a surprise.

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I must have missed that. Where does it tell me how big the file is?

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Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color. Don Hirschberg

Indeed - and it makes me feel a little sad that 3M have discontinued the marketing of their "frangible" road signs..........they may not have been the ultimate cure-all but at least they were a step in the right direction.... For those that don't know them, they are designed so that instead of causing massive damage to the vehicle - or you, they shatter on impact.

3M UK & Ireland: News and Events - Product News

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Cranky old shuffler who rides unfashionable bikes slowly whilst reciting Roadcraft.

I wish they had dropped their latest highly reflective (generally with a big yellow box bordering them) signs instead. They dazzle the hell out of you at night. It's a bit much when you have to go on dip to avoid dazzling yourself!

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AFAIK they're not the only Co. making such posts.

It's not their fault; blame the people in councils who specify that grade of material.

Oddly enough, you should also be grateful you can see them - HGV drivers sat some way higher than their vehicle's lights can't as they get closer to the sign because of the narrow 'cone' of light reflected back!

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I can assure you, as a regular driver of HGVs, that has never been the case for any sign I have ever seen.

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Ah! another gem straight from the nags mouth, as it were! Yep, went back to Google and found this update:
Road signs collapse to cut crash deaths - Times Online
So it would seem that these things do indeed have a future.

..............................That just leaves lamposts, post boxes,concrete bollards, bus stops et al............ It really is not a healthy place out there! How about a nice sanitized zone of "kitty litter" and a few old tyres and straw bales along every main road?

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Cranky old shuffler who rides unfashionable bikes slowly whilst reciting Roadcraft.