Originally Posted by Bladerideressex

Cant be too long before one of our more junior members asks what a kickstart is!

I only know from watchin it on the telly as a lad.

Originally Posted by Wossname

Being careful isn't difficult.

It certainly isn't.

Being difficult, for the sake of it, is de rigueur around these parts tho.

Originally Posted by Bladerideressex

Another way to get on is for the pillion to use the riders left footpeg if the pillion footpeg is too high.... getting on without a rider on baord is a bit fraught in my opinion and could end in tears! Especially if the engine is running...

Hmmm... never thought of that!

Good point about the engine, and something I try to get trainees on the basic course to think about... I've seen a couple of bikes launched off the side stand minus rider when they've inadvertantly knocked the bike into gear (not when I was training the riders, I hasten to add!)

Originally Posted by Wossname

Yeah, well..... life's too short.....!

Indeed, so let them be difficult and don't let it concern ya.

Originally Posted by Wossname

What she does is what I also suggest for the newbie pillions I take out quite often. Bike on side stand; she gets on in MY place and shuffles back. When she's organised, found her pegs etc, I get on in front. Dead easy. Only anxiety is if bike is leaning over too much - it's quite a load to put through a side-stand. Choose your spot, should be OK; we've done it for years without problems.

Sorry if this is old news, but I'm amazed at rallies & so on to see pillions obviously struggling to get on.

Getting off? "Disassembly is the reverse of assembly", IYSWIM.

Also interesting...

Another one to add to the box of tricks

Originally Posted by Wossname

What she does is what I also suggest for the newbie pillions I take out quite often. Bike on side stand; she gets on in MY place and shuffles back. When she's organised, found her pegs etc, I get on in front. Dead easy. Only anxiety is if bike is leaning over too much - it's quite a load to put through a side-stand. Choose your spot, should be OK; we've done it for years without problems.

That's what I do on the Pan, making the assumption that the sidestand of a 280kg bike can tolerate another ('how much do you weigh again, dear?') few kg.

One thing I do wonder if I'll continue with, though, is letting my son ride in his rugby boots. Recently he raked the studs across the seat and left some nice lines...