November's Hi-Viz Thread :)

[Horse]

Yes, a BBC link.

BBC NEWS | Wales | North East Wales | Pub dog must wear 'high-vis' vest

There's a video too

[Jim at SRSP]

They really ought to attach a collar with forward facing lamps (and he needs a special hi-intensity red sphincter light)

[Voyager]

Yes, a BBC link.

BBC NEWS | Wales | North East Wales | Pub dog must wear 'high-vis' vest

There's a video too

[Jim at SRSP]

The dog is the one in yellow

[Voyager]

The dog is the one in yellow

I didn't see it.

[Jim at SRSP]

I didn't see it.

That's why he needs DRL...

[Voyager]

That's why he needs DRL...

Has Golicker pinched your log-in?

[Jim at SRSP]

Has Golicker pinched your log-in?

He's on a cruise right now, leaving us to get on with some work in his absence.

[m00c0w]

May I ask a question (other than this one)? From what I have heard from various people, I understand you to be anti hi-viz vests. Is this correct, and may I ask why this is?

Genuine question btw, and just to let you know I am neither for or against for various reasons.

[tenbears]

May I ask a question (other than this one)? From what I have heard from various people, I understand you to be anti hi-viz vests. Is this correct, and may I ask why this is?

Genuine question btw, and just to let you know I am neither for or against for various reasons.

[Voyager]

MI understand you to be anti hi-viz vests. Is this correct, and may I ask why this is?

OK. (The very short version)

1. The idea that people can be seen 'better' by others when wearing one is (as far as I have been able to tell) totally unproven.

This leads to

2. Risk Compensation. Once you are told you will be seen 'better' you will tend to believe it to be true and behave in a way that might put you at more risk.

Conclusion

3. I believe you will actually be 'safer' if you understand that you may not have been seen. At all.

[m00c0w]

And why are you banging your head? I'm only asking!!

[m00c0w]

OK. (The very short version)

1. The idea that people can be seen 'better' by others when wearing one is (as far as I have been able to tell) totally unproven.

This leads to

2. Risk Compensation. Once you are told you will be seen 'better' you will tend to believe it to be true and behave in a way that might put you at more risk.

Conclusion

3. I believe you will actually be 'safer' if you understand that you may not have been seen. At all.

Thank you for the answer. I happen to agree pretty much, although I am of the opinion (I think) that if it does help then it has to be a good thing - although it's not my thing but each to their own. Although relying on being seen because you are wearing it is pretty dumb, and yes, I ride like no one has seen me at all and think this is the best attitude to have to riding.

[ink ink]

Frankly, I'd be surprised if a beermat-eating dog would "risk compensate" in the pub because he had a yellow jacket on.

[tenbears]

And why are you banging your head? I'm only asking!!

...only because it's been banged on about in here [and over there] zillions of times.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if a beermat-eating dog would "risk compensate" in the pub because he had a yellow jacket on.

Couldn't quite see the connection between a beer mat chewing dog and day-glo jacket either... other than it's some sort of punishment.