Lights daytime

How would I know.

And anyway, with my headlight off I'm not having crashes.

Some drivers do that when you don't have lights on too.

I know that, silly.

My perception is that more do with lights on.

im new here but reading with interest this post , there is no law re riding with lights on, so this is down to each person, whether they want to have the lights on/off . im an instructor aswell and i personally [ not because the dsa or anyone else says ] advise people to have the lights on as its down to my experience ,that it is easier to be seen , i do a lot of van driving and have seen bikes with and without lights on and imho it is much easier to spot with the lights on .

I'm glad you were not my instructor.

so voyager and that means what exactly ?

What do you think it means?

well obviously i cant read minds so tell me as im interested in your opinion when you dont know me or what i have done as an instructor and if you are on about me ADVISING people to have lights on its exactly that advice upto them whether they take that advice .
or is it cus i have a different view to you on this subject as you are all knowing .

I meant to mention this the other day but as all that was to hide planes during daylight, which by their very nature are against a light background it has very little relevance to a motorcycle in the country has it?

What part of road and green hedges is as light as the sky (which the sun lives in).?


Planes are light on the underside and green camo on the top to cammoflage them, doing it the other way around or having lights on the top of the plane shining up would surely give a better idea of how a motorcycle is?

Also that six pointers thing seems to suggest that its better to have a big front light of high wattage?

Plus there seems to be the idea floating about that people who have thir lights on do it thinking it makes other road users look at them, if someones not looking, no amount of massive headlights will make a difference to them maybe pulling out at the last minute, the main area that I personally find lights do help is with the parting of the waves effect whilst on a busy road as they move over more (anecdotal admittedly as I really couldn't be arsed ratching for facts and figures) to give me space to get ahead.

In short I have (Dipped) lights on but don't think it gives me special rights over the road.

I know that someone will missinterpret that on purpose though but I suppose we all have our own agenda

---

KX Riders.com

Of course. Id imagine it only have the effect of hiding the bike in the morn or evening when the sun is low in the sky. There are times when you ar riding and the sun is more or less behind you

---

What, when the suns just above the horizon and right behind me as I ride along a straight road with no intervening hedges?

Plus with black leathers and a black lid I supply my own dark background for the light to be contrasted against

---

KX Riders.com

Ok ok. Im only using an example that i read a while back. I cant remember the specifics. I cant find the original thread or link.

<--- Butts out of conversation before looking more stupid

---

You don't need to be able to 'read minds' to be able to understand what I 'meant exactly' by 'I'm glad you were not my instructor'.

I meant exactly what I wrote. I'm glad you were not my instructor.
We know what you have told us what you have done as instructor and that is 'advise people to have the lights on as its down to my experience'. I suspect from what you have bothered to tell us that your 'experience' is limited and biased. So I'm glad you were not my instructor 'advising' me.
I certainly seem to know more about it than you. Why not have a discussion with the students and, instead of 'advising' them of anything, let them consider the potential advantages and disadvantages of riding with lights on and let them make up their own minds?

That is not the point.

I posted it the other day when someone (you?) was snidely suggesting that in reply to 'the use of lights as camouflage' that they did not know of any use the military had made of lights to camouflage anything. So I posted that to show that they had.

I posted it here as Superhero Tony asked for it.

Are you going to suggest that lights cannot camouflage you? Under any circumstances?

Would it be this one by any chance?

It's in the Blog, not in the list of Riding Skills articles...

---

Sponsor Page Blog Website Courses booking now for 2010 Riding Tips Shop
Follow me on Twitter NEW - online e-course
The dull copyright bit - feel free to nick it for personal use. If you want to reprint it for your club, I'd like a mention as author. Otherwise hands-off. Full terms
"Force has no place where there is need of skill" Herodotus 450BC