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"New bike test - a question for the Instructors" thread in "Staying Alive"
Originally Posted by Ernie Cooley How many people actually do that when they are getting out of a parking space? normally sit on the bike, ...


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Old 21-05-08, 12:49   #31 (permalink)
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How many people actually do that when they are getting out of a parking space? normally sit on the bike, clutch control with a bit of throttle and front brake, foot the bike back, bit of throttle, foot the bike back until you can get out easily. Perhaps a better test would be if they rider could actually control the bike whilst sat on it in this example rather than say they fail because they cannot handle it when not sat in it?
I turn the bike round and point it in the general direction of where I want to go before getting on. My legs aren't long enough to safely paddle the bikes around except for my teeny weeny little one so I don't, but I seem to be able to manage to push backwards any I need to.

I can do 3 point turns in a road with a steep camber though.
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In this months Bike there is a short comment on why this is include in the test, apparently it is to simulate manouvering a bike 180 degrees from a parked space and it has to be done in an arc.

How many people actually do that when they are getting out of a parking space? normally sit on the bike, clutch control with a bit of throttle and front brake, foot the bike back, bit of throttle, foot the bike back until you can get out easily. Perhaps a better test would be if they rider could actually control the bike whilst sat on it in this example rather than say they fail because they cannot handle it when not sat in it?
Presumably the KSI figures will be significantly improved by removing stats down to riders pinned to their garage wall by a dropped bike

Can't think of many parking spaces I turn the bike thru 180 tho - I'd be back in the parking space or up the neighbour's drive!

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I turn the bike round and point it in the general direction of where I want to go before getting on. My legs aren't long enough to safely paddle the bikes around except for my teeny weeny little one so I don't, but I seem to be able to manage to push backwards any I need to.

I can do 3 point turns in a road with a steep camber though.
So surely the exercise should be one where the rider chooses how to deal with the problem, and so long as it's done safely and successfully, the method is down to choice?

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So surely the exercise should be one where the rider chooses how to deal with the problem, and so long as it's done safely and successfully, the method is down to choice?
Choice ? You can't have choice, the DSA wouldn't allow complicated things like choice ! Almost as bad as counter-steering.

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I can do 3 point turns in a road with a steep camber though.
Don't go beyond the crown of the camber. I think I learnt that one by experience
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So surely the exercise should be one where the rider chooses how to deal with the problem, and so long as it's done safely and successfully, the method is down to choice?
I believe that should be the philosophy for pretty much everything if a bit of common sense is thrown in.

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Don't go beyond the crown of the camber. I think I learnt that one by experience
Having short legs I find moving my bike while sitting on it difficult even on the flat. Uphill is almost impossible so it's a case of drive up forwards, roll down backwards. Alternatively I'll get off and push.
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I believe that should be the philosophy for pretty much everything if a bit of common sense is thrown in.

Having short legs I find moving my bike while sitting on it difficult even on the flat. Uphill is almost impossible so it's a case of drive up forwards, roll down backwards. Alternatively I'll get off and push.
I was reading a website the other day (should have made a note of the link!) to the effect you can choose which "garage" back into - so you can go either left or right. So plenty of choice.

I still remember the first time I got the CX stuck nose down on a sharp camber... that was a bugger to reverse out again!

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