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Originally Posted by Skub The other is most riders on a trackday will be faster on a 600 than a litre bike because of highside ...

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Old 03-12-08, 13:21   #16 (permalink)
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The other is most riders on a trackday will be faster on a 600 than a litre bike because of highside fear,TC sorts that to some degree and allows riders a mental safety net.
Trust me, when ridden correctly..or incorrectly a 600 will bite your arse just as hard as a thou...and the tarmac is still hard regardless of what you ride
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How's TC going to stop wheelies
I would imagine it measures front and rear wheel rotation speeds and reigns in the power if the rear exceeds the front by a fixed percentage.

How would you do it?
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I would imagine it measures front and rear wheel rotation speeds and reigns in the power if the rear exceeds the front by a fixed percentage.

How would you do it?
Apparently it has the abilty to sense if the front wheel is on the ground or not and acts accordingly, therefore will not prevent wheelies.
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How would you do it?
Smoke detector on a stick.
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Apparently it has the abilty to sense if the front wheel is on the ground or not and acts accordingly, therefore will not prevent wheelies.
Jolly good. Even more to go wrong, impede simple maintenance and does anyone else see a potential problem with Italian electrics and the chance for sudden systems failures here?
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I would imagine it measures front and rear wheel rotation speeds and reigns in the power if the rear exceeds the front by a fixed percentage.

How would you do it?
Fair enough.

'twas a genuine question as I wouldn't have the first clue how anything like that works!!
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I wouldn't have the first clue how anything like that works!!
Nor do I. It was a guess.
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Jolly good. Even more to go wrong, impede simple maintenance and does anyone else see a potential problem with Italian electrics and the chance for sudden systems failures here?
Yes 100% so.

I think the potential disasters for TC is truely tremendous.
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How would you do it?
Differentiate the signal from the crank/rpm sensor and write some software that looks for spikes and rates of acceleration that are beyond what the bike is capable of.
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Differentiate the signal from the crank/rpm sensor and write some software that looks for spikes and rates of acceleration that are beyond what the bike is capable of.
Haven't you just designed a complicated rev limiter?
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Traction control isnt the same as Launch or anti wheelie control.
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On a shaft drive bike could it be reversed, to allow wheelies?
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Haven't you just designed a complicated rev limiter?
No, I said rates of acceleration, not rotational speed. And AFAIK this is actually how a lot of TC systems work. Mr Dazzle will be along in a mo (maybe) to confirm or deny as it's more his field than mine.
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Jolly good. Even more to go wrong, impede simple maintenance and does anyone else see a potential problem with Italian electrics and the chance for sudden systems failures here?
Dani Pedrosa practice start/TC awol anyone?
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No, I said rates of acceleration, not rotational speed. And AFAIK this is actually how a lot of TC systems work. Mr Dazzle will be along in a mo (maybe) to confirm or deny as it's more his field than mine.


DTS uses differential in wheel speeds and is user selectable - 8 levels of traction control apparently - and can't be used on the road!

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