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What's the budget? If it's £3k or so you're starting to get into R1150GS territory and they are well worth having for long commuting trips. ...


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Old 14-08-08, 07:36   #16 (permalink)
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What's the budget?

If it's £3k or so you're starting to get into R1150GS territory and they are well worth having for long commuting trips. Mine gives me 50+mpg (measured) at 80mph, tyres are cheap, and servicing is a doddle to do at home (right up until it needs a new clutch...)

Or have you considered a maxi scoot? Some of the bigger ones would probably fit the bill.

Someone hit the nail on the head for me upthread though, I currently commute half the distance you do, and enjoy it year round on the bike. Much further though and I'd be looking at getting a small car if the traffic wasn't too bad.

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Old 14-08-08, 07:50   #17 (permalink)
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£2k wont get you a lot of Pan - we use Dullsvilles at the bike school....run for ever but literally dull as a errr Dullsville Make a good commuter though....
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Yamaha FZS600 2002/3 Foxeye. 55 to 60 mpg on that sort of work, good headlights, narrow enough to squeeze through at Headington roundabout, decent wind protection with a double bubble. Can be made bolt-upright with £25 bar risers off fleabay. Can be done on your budget with a Givi rack and lowish miles.

Mine lives on the A40 several hundred miles a week.

Been riding about 4 years now and had one chain snap mainly due to gross neglect and age - don't see what the issue is personally.
I have a fazer and it is good for a long commute. Fit a top box, muffs, and it you intend to do the depths of winter fis heated grips. The service intervals are 6k....

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Get a Deauville. A pan won't get you there any faster and it'll be more expensive to run.

A Deauville will do 60+mpg, you'll get 12000+ out of a rear, it's comfy, it's completely reliable and the weather protection is good.

But I'm willing to bet you won't buy one 'cos of the 'stigma' - especially if you won't even consider a BMW.
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Seriously? Neither, unless you try and fall in love with it. That's too many miles to ride a bike which is 'OK'.

Agree with both of these.

have done similar milage commutes and you HAVE to enjoy riding the bike otherwise you'll seriously HATE the whole experience and become a bitter and twisted bastard (in which case you'll eventually buy a Pan anyway ).

Regarding the BMWs - remember that you won't be looking at the thing when riding it, and go and test a few different bikes - BMs, Pan, Deau etc etc - anything you can get your hands on.

Perfetly welcome to try a spin on my Rockster if you want?

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Oh yeah - was going to say - you don't NEED too much power - I used to do A40/M40 to High Wycombe on a 550Zephyr (the Mirth) and it was perfectly fast enough (when ragged merciliessly I admit - but that was part of the fun ), but also comfy through traffic and easy to ride gently when my mind was elsewhere.

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Perhaps you should speak to Olly for an owner's perspective on that. He regularly embarasses faster (on paper) bikes over the N York moors on his Dullville.
it's easy to embarasses people when your bike is not worth anything and you ride it every day,i used to do it all the time on my GT550 as you will try that bit harder to prove a point,and i would come out of a roundabout on my GT550 and use the road to change up,but it does not mean it was a good bike.
as i was a courier for 23 yrs i have owned and ridden most bike and i would have a fazer everyday over a deauville.
as i could get between 180-210 miles to a tank from a fazer at 80 MPH on the motorway.
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Eccles, have a look at Humans post below.

I think I'm going to sell my bike

Might suit you.
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I commute 110 miles a day on my Bros. Way better than anything else I've tried and a hoot as well. Boring, what isn't, on the m-way though and I prolly wouldn't want to Winter on it (but then I'm in the "you must be mental to go out on a bike in the Winter" camp anyway).

Ideally, if I really had to use a bike year-round, I'd have something I loved riding March/November (ish) and then a horrid, spunk-covered, fully-faired, double-insulated hatecycle for the real depths of Winter. I don't think there is a 'best of both Worlds' option for the UK climate.
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and i forgot what about a TDM
Now yer talking. Seriously though, much as I love my TDM, there are few things to consider for that sort of mileage, besides the chain drive:Fairing is nowhere near as good a Deauville nor a Pan;You need to make sure the coils are properly insulated (using amalgamating tape - easily done);There have been issues with fuel consumption - emulsion tubes wearing and letting more fuel through - sorted using a Factory Pro jet kit (or probably a Dynojet kit).Otherwise I'd highly recommend it.
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I commute 110 miles a day on my Bros. Way better than anything else I've tried and a hoot as well. Boring, what isn't, on the m-way though and I prolly wouldn't want to Winter on it (but then I'm in the "you must be mental to go out on a bike in the Winter" camp anyway).

Ideally, if I really had to use a bike year-round, I'd have something I loved riding March/November (ish) and then a horrid, spunk-covered, fully-faired, double-insulated hatecycle for the real depths of Winter. I don't think there is a 'best of both Worlds' option for the UK climate.
Best of both worlds? Any bike you like, good kit and a heated jacket.

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Best of both worlds? Any bike you like, good kit and a heated jacket.
Seconded - some form of heated clothing (I use a Giali/Klan heated waistcoat) makes all the difference. I can happily deal with the worst of winter with bashed and ripped, 8 year old Dainese paddock jacket. Might put a windstopper underneath if I'm being gurlie.
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if I'm being gurlie.
You usually are, hell you even wear a skirt

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You usually are, hell you even wear a skirt
I have been known to wear the heated jacket in summer. Believe it or not, the kilt is fecking hot to wear.
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it's easy to embarasses people when your bike is not worth anything and you ride it every day,i used to do it all the time on my GT550 as you will try that bit harder to prove a point,and i would come out of a roundabout on my GT550 and use the road to change up,but it does not mean it was a good bike.
Point is, this wasn't a hack. But I'll let him comment further.

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