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what I dont get is other peoples preconceptions about Ducati owners I paid £4000 for my 996, written off now and replaced with a GSXR1000 ...


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Old 07-07-08, 21:36   #31 (permalink)
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what I dont get is other peoples preconceptions about Ducati owners

I paid £4000 for my 996, written off now and replaced with a GSXR1000

my monster is worth £1500 at most

yet according to slogger their prices make me a middle class snob

confusing because I've got a GSXR1000 the same year as him, so Slogger are you a middle class snob as well?

As for being blind, I might have to stretch my arms a bit to read but blind?

A lot of the following is the strong owners clubs organising meets/rideouts.

The dealers are generally enthusiasts, there's a plethora of companies making parts for them so personalising them is easy.

They are also well designed for easy working on.

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Old 07-07-08, 21:57   #32 (permalink)
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I have that logo on the back of my Ducati race suit. The early 916s came with it on the filler cap.
I downloaded it for my cheesy retro logo T shirt collection, along with masses of other bike Logos, its great


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Well, wot crust said. A second-hand Monster is cheap biking by any standards, or you could be spending a packet on the latest 1098. Personally I'm very much a 4-valve man. I've owned 2-valve Ducatis, three of them in fact (although no Monsters), and although I could conceive of buying another as a cheap hack, I much prefer the sound, and, most importantly, the engine characteristics of the 4-valve bikes. I'm trying to offset the greater expense of running one by improving my mechanical skills and doing more of my own maintenance. I've already done jobs on the 749 that I paid a professional to do on my 748. Some things (in my view) need to be left to the experts, but us lesser mortals can do our bit. And the prize is a remarkably satisfying motorcycle with, in my opinion, a perfect combination of revviness and torque.
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Good to see all the subdivisions in full working order.

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what I dont get is other peoples preconceptions about Ducati owners

I paid £4000 for my 996, written off now and replaced with a GSXR1000

my monster is worth £1500 at most

yet according to slogger their prices make me a middle class snob

confusing because I've got a GSXR1000 the same year as him, so Slogger are you a middle class snob as well?

As for being blind, I might have to stretch my arms a bit to read but blind?

A lot of the following is the strong owners clubs organising meets/rideouts.

The dealers are generally enthusiasts, there's a plethora of companies making parts for them so personalising them is easy.

They are also well designed for easy working on.

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I'm sure that a Bimota would excite me in the same way Ducati's do, so if they've got a bit of Ducati in them, the badge wouldn't matter a bit. As other's have said, some bikes just have something about them, namely Ducati's, Aprilia's and KTM's for me also. Maybe because they're built and engineered by real enthusiasts? Maybe because they have their little quirks and you have to be knowledgeable about them to own and use them...I dunno.
Nice to see the usual stereotypes being rolled out though Because somebody buys a £10K Ducati they're a snob, but a £10K Aprilia? a £10K BMW? a £10K Yamaha? They all cost more than my new Ducati.
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Maybe because they're built and engineered by real enthusiasts?
Really? You two have funny ideas of how motorcycles are produced.



They are built in a modern factory by staff on a production line. The is not a 'Gino' fettling each component by hand to fit your bike and I'll bet he moans about his job just like other factory workers.
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Really? You two have funny ideas of how motorcycles are produced.



They are built in a modern factory by staff on a production line. The is not a 'Gino' fettling each component by hand to fit your bike and I'll bet he moans about his job just like other factory workers.
Of course they are, but after reading a recent article where one of the magazines visited the KTM factory and talked to the workers and management etc, it really showed the enthusiasm and passion for the bikes I'd like to visit the Ducati factory sometime, see how it really works there.
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I'd like to visit the Ducati factory sometime, see how it really works there.
You can

Don't forget every day in the Bologna factory is a Friday afternoon.
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Don't forget every day in the Bologna factory is a Friday afternoon.
Sounds like my kinda place
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Sounds like my kinda place
I think the closest you'll get to the perceived image of the Italian motorcycle industry would be a trip to the home of Guzzi at Mandello del Lario



Outside the factory



A visit there and to Bologna would make a nice petrolhead tour of northern Italy.

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Ducati's sound the worst out of all the twins i've ever heard. Rattling like a bag of not-very-well put together spanners.
But that's the best bit. I like a bit of rough, it makes me feel all norty

Rattling, booming thing from Italy. Who just said that? I like that

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I've actually been to the factory and talked to the workers. They are all Ducati enthusiast and enjoy working on the bikes. Most of the work is still done by hand. Of course they have a production line, how else would the wheelless bikes move around different areas? All these stages are manned by people, though, not robots, and they understand what they're doing, where everything fits together and what the end result will be. A huge amount of them ride Ducatis, too.
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This conversation is just silly.....for 'Ducati' substitute 'Harley Davidson' and the effect's the same among owners of 'lifestyle choices'......







....besides, those in the know, know Aprilias are the best Italian bikes!!

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All these stages are manned by people, though, not robots,
Rather like Honda then.



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and they understand what they're doing, where everything fits together and what the end result will be.
Just as well - otherwise it would be a rubbish production line.
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