The Rev Counter - The Motorbike Community Click to see PG‘s profileClick to see kebabthecat‘s profileClick to visit this Sponsor

These advertisements are removed when you register and become a TRC Supporter / Sponsor member.

"Life with an old VFR" thread in "Motorbike Chat"
I tried a vfr750 expecting to love it; I'm a 4-twin man, so a 4-four should be better right? Wrong. Found it pretty dull to ...


Thread Tags: bike reviews, old gent's bike, vfr750, vfr750ft


Go Back   Homepage > Community @ The Rev Counter > The Rev Counter > Motorbike Chat
Register Blogs Forums TRC Trader Reviews Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 14-06-08, 10:06   #16 (permalink)
Cerebral Paisley
 
DefTrap's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Charente - Maritime
Posts: 2,999
Casino cash: £504450
Thanks: 40
Thanked: 14/14
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

I tried a vfr750 expecting to love it; I'm a 4-twin man, so a 4-four should be better right? Wrong. Found it pretty dull to ride, not much character to the engine. Shame. What really killed it was the amount of lashed up gubbins behind the fairing, seeing that pranged one brings it all back ...
DefTrap is offline   Reply With Quote
These advertisements are reduced in size when you become a registered member and removed when you become a TRC Supporter / Sponsor member.

Old 14-06-08, 10:30   #17 (permalink)
Tack NOT tact
 
MrTack's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,750
Casino cash: £200800
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 14
Thanked: 19/18
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

They are fantastic compared to the VF i owned



Mine managed to get me all over the uk looking for work before i part exed it for a gpz900.
MrTack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-08, 10:47   #18 (permalink)
Banned

 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,827
Casino cash: £232800
Thanks: 46
Thanked: 125/109
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Druid View Post
I've only ridden a couple of 800s and I found it really difficult to roll the throttle on smoothly, esp when trying to wind it on coming out of corners. I believe it can be minimized by careful setting up, but the ones I rode were both jerky.
I went from a late 750 to an early 800 and didn't notice there was an issue from the f.i. to be honest.

I preferred the 750, the wife thought the 800 was smoother and more comfortable for the pillion though.
Voyager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-08, 11:28   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Druid's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Co Durham
Posts: 597
Casino cash: £228500
Thanks: 8
Thanked: 37/34
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by DefTrap View Post
I tried a vfr750 expecting to love it; I'm a 4-twin man, so a 4-four should be better right? Wrong. Found it pretty dull to ride, not much character to the engine. Shame. What really killed it was the amount of lashed up gubbins behind the fairing, seeing that pranged one brings it all back ...
The power delivery is linear, it just builds up with no discernible power band so it can feel a bit lacking in character. I liked being able to keep it in one gear rather than changing up and down the box to keep it on song.

As for the gubbins behind the fairing, it's no worse than any other faired bike. You have to put all the electrical connectors somewhere, behind the fairing is out of the weather and (fairly) accessible. The only other options are under the tank or the seat.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTack View Post
They are fantastic compared to the VF i owned



Mine managed to get me all over the uk looking for work before i part exed it for a gpz900.
I had one of those too. It did the usual trick and ate its cams, though it did have over 50k by then. It would have cost £600 in parts to fix (in 1990) but a car pulled out in front of me and it was written off, which saved me the trouble of scrapping it myself.

A biker is someone who rides through choice. Not because it is the most comfortable way to transport a body but because it can be the most magical way to carry a soul - Dave Gurman
Druid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-08, 18:26   #20 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Splat's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Lost in space
Posts: 2,024
Casino cash: £225385
Thanks: 5
Thanked: 11/10
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Druid View Post
You calling me new and hamfisted?

Me? Noooo, merely suffering from the advantages of youth and impetuousness
Splat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-08, 23:52   #21 (permalink)
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7
Casino cash: £195350
Thanks: 0
Thanked: 1/1
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

I had a VFR750FR as my first bike at 21. Got to say that I agree with everything said on here; I did 30,000 trouble free miles on it, with the only time it ever let me down being when the positive feed to the ignition cable rubbed through (my fault for having a tankbag strap round the headstock which frayed it).

I replaced the exhaust for a motad, and put a hagon shock and springs in it and fitted an earlier pro-arm rear wheel (.5in wider than the standard, allows for a 180 tyre to be fitted properly).

It stood up to me lobbing it down the road twice (R&G bungs helped its resilience somewhat) I could even get my knee down at will with bt020 tyres on it... can't do that on my GSXR11 that I have now (perhaps my balls ain't big enough?)

Sold it this year for 900 quid (fairing was tatty and looked like it had been repaired by a 5 year old let loose with plastic padding). It didn't excite (ie scare the shit out of me) like my 11 does, but sometimes I miss it...

Sorry Bonners, reading your post has brought it all back
w00w00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-08, 15:50   #22 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
MrFiction's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South Birmingham
Posts: 950
Casino cash: £197100
Blog Entries: 27
Thanks: 4
Thanked: 5/5
Thumbs up Re: Life with an old VFR

I've had 2 of the first FG's and an FM.

Loved the first FG even though it was a factory streetfighter from Japan and really just a workhorse bike for courier runs. First bike I ever properly got my kneedown on. I think it was on 50,000+ trouble free miles when I sold it on. I NEVER had to touch the engine (other than servicing).

A few years later I bought another FG - this time in white so everyone thinks it's Police and drive into ditches and stuff when you appear in your mirrors!

Bought in and did a few thousand miles before some scrotes stole it, drilling all the locks out and -ing up the otherwise pristine fairing , and it's on Ebay now at £300.10: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MESE:IT&ih=007

To replace that I bought a tatty old FM, and up until January was happily riding it anad it was on 110,000+ miles! Still started first time every time, and again I NEVER touched the engine other than servicing. Some tit took em out by doing a u-turn in front of me and insurance wrote the bike off.

I sold it for £200 and someone is now riding it again.

The FM handled great. I can't say anything else, because my mates on Fireblades could just about match me when things got silly. Kneedown at will anywhere at any speed, and pegs down on every corner even 2-up. The first FG was good but a bit skittish because of the raised bars. The white FG didn't turn in very well - and I'm sure that's because of the 170 rear tyre on it when it should be a 150.

Awesome bikes!

Quite ironic that the ZX9R I got to replace that FM ate it's own engine earlier this month on a mere 34,000 miles!

If you need a bike that's quick enough to match most things on the road today, AND that runs forever with no hassles, there is no other choice.

MySpace blog NastyEvilNinja

Kwak ZX9R
MrFiction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-08, 16:40   #23 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Mr Jon's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Comin' in Your Ears
Posts: 929
Casino cash: £207050
Thanks: 20
Thanked: 5/4
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFiction View Post
If you need a bike that's quick enough to match most things on the road today, AND that runs forever with no hassles, there is no other choice.
Or, you could buy the VFR VTEC*.
























* Hides behind sofa ready for abuse.
Mr Jon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-08, 15:59   #24 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
MrFiction's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South Birmingham
Posts: 950
Casino cash: £197100
Blog Entries: 27
Thanks: 4
Thanked: 5/5
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jon View Post
Or, you could buy the VFR VTEC*.

* Hides behind sofa ready for abuse.

You know what I think makes the VFR's (especially that engine) so fantastic?

The gear-driven cams.

Guess what they did away with when it went to 800cc?

MySpace blog NastyEvilNinja

Kwak ZX9R
MrFiction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-08, 16:34   #25 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,995
Casino cash: £23100
Thanks: 15
Thanked: 16/14
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFiction View Post
You know what I think makes the VFR's (especially that engine) so fantastic?

The gear-driven cams.

Guess what they did away with when it went to 800cc?
Tell me what difference they make to your riding experience.

[EDIT]That's wrong btw, the 800Fi has gear-driven cams, the v-tec doesn't.
So maybe it wasn't the cam-drive that you liked after all. [/EDIT]
trogggy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-08, 16:54   #26 (permalink)
Banned

 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,827
Casino cash: £232800
Thanks: 46
Thanked: 125/109
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFiction View Post
You know what I think makes the VFR's (especially that engine) so fantastic?

The gear-driven cams.

Guess what they did away with when it went to 800cc?
Crank and pistons? Barrel dimension?

Dunno. Give us a clue because it certainly wasn't gear driven cams.

But as trogggy asks, how can you tell how your cams are rotated when you are riding?
Voyager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-08, 17:43   #27 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Druid's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Co Durham
Posts: 597
Casino cash: £228500
Thanks: 8
Thanked: 37/34
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voyager View Post
But as trogggy asks, how can you tell how your cams are rotated when you are riding?
You can hear the whine from the gears, as you probably know. Whether that makes any difference to the riding experience is debateable.

A biker is someone who rides through choice. Not because it is the most comfortable way to transport a body but because it can be the most magical way to carry a soul - Dave Gurman
Druid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-08, 18:05   #28 (permalink)
Banned

 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,827
Casino cash: £232800
Thanks: 46
Thanked: 125/109
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Druid View Post
You can hear the whine from the gears, as you probably know.
You might be able discern it at a standstill but I've had a CB1 and two VFR's and can't say I've noticed it on the move.
Voyager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-08, 19:17   #29 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Druid's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Co Durham
Posts: 597
Casino cash: £228500
Thanks: 8
Thanked: 37/34
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

It's not intrusive, but it is certainly audible even wearing a helmet and earplugs...

or maybe the gears were worn and that's why they were noisy

A biker is someone who rides through choice. Not because it is the most comfortable way to transport a body but because it can be the most magical way to carry a soul - Dave Gurman
Druid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-08, 21:34   #30 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Mr Jon's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Comin' in Your Ears
Posts: 929
Casino cash: £207050
Thanks: 20
Thanked: 5/4
Default Re: Life with an old VFR

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFiction View Post
You know what I think makes the VFR's (especially that engine) so fantastic?

The gear-driven cams.

Guess what they did away with when it went to 800cc?

Gear driven cams, blah blah blah......

I went from a 750 to an 800 Fi, then the VTEC, didn't miss the whining noise from the gear driven cams one bit.

One thing they all have in common that makes them all so fantastic is the V4, what a great sound imho.

Change the OE zorst on any viffer and voila, instant V8 style engine roar!
Mr Jon is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bike reviews, old gent's bike, vfr750, vfr750ft

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 17:04.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Term, Conditions & Privacy · Unless member submitted, the contents of this webpage are copyright © Dragon Tree. All Rights Reserved · Advertise with TRC