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Bizarre engine fault.Friend of mine has a diesel turbo van, one day it just blew all the oil out of the RADIATOR! Head removed and skimmed, new ... |
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Friend of mine has a diesel turbo van, one day it just blew all the oil out of the RADIATOR! Head removed and skimmed, new head gasket, 4 miles down the road, same thing. It's a Merc Sprinter. I thought it might be the liquid cooled oil cooler because that's one of the places where oil and water pass each other, but that's fine. Any ideas? |
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Got a mate with one and from what he's said they have a fair bit of head gasket problems. His old blue bus (Merc 208 ) which has a fairly similar engine as far as I know was a lot better van. | |
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Just seems like a bizarre fault. Presumably there's a place on the engine where oil pressure can jump into the cooling system and make a break for freedom. | |
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It sounds like "take the head off again, clean relevant areas and look for the cause, resolve the cause and re-assemble" Could there be a blockage in the oilway in the head? |
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My BMW F800S has a heat exchanger, a wee box down the front of the engine where the coolant and oil pass thorough. Has the Merc got one? is it damaged? leaking?
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Probably way out but some turbos are watercooled, could it be in that area. It is the radiator, not intercooler throwing oil? |
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Is the water pump/cooling system working? If it isn't, running the engine up, then driving it for 4 miles could cause it to overheat again. Whether it's long enough to warp the head or not is questionable though I guess. When the head was skimmed did you measure that it was flat? I saw a dolly sprint head once that was skimmed, it was still warped like a banana* - presumably it was bolted down/put under tension before it was skimmed which flattened it out. *Slight exaggeration. |
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Just out of interest are the water and oil pumps on the same shaft/combined? That's something I've seen before (can't for the life of me remember what on though) and if the gaskets/o rings between the two parts of the pump fail it gives similar symptoms to a head gasket failure. | |
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Didn't pay too much attention to how it's all assembled though, but all under one roof so to speak. | |
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remove the thermostat and check it using the kettle (while the missus is out)
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had something similar happen on my old 99turbo, that was the waterway in the block corroded through into the oilway, except water pressure is far greater than oil pressure and i ended up with a sump full of water. my money is on turbo seal |
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