Camper conversion, stainless steel style!

big bald one · 23-11-09, 17:08

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle

but some bedding and cupboard weighing in at 2 tonnes? Surely not...

That's not a camper, that's a bike racers van.

You'd be surprised how the weight adds up, I'm half way through aconversion and can feel the difference already.

plywood lining and insulation, plywood wet room walls and door, toilet etc, kitchen units and appliances, fridge, gas bottles, inboard water tanks, slide out bed materials, other seating, beer compartment.

That's just for starters.

Gedge · 23-11-09, 17:16

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle

You're right about the MAM of course...but some bedding and cupboard weighing in at 2 tonnes? Surely not...

Go and weigh a caravan ..I think you might be surprised

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Mr. Dazzle · 23-11-09, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Gedge

Go and weigh a caravan ..I think you might be surprised

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That's what's prompted me to say it....my 'rents are caravaners and I know their 4 berth 'van is ITRO 1800kg. Now a tranny van doesn't have all the running gear (well it does, but it's not part of the payload) and the total 'furnished' space is less, hence I think it would be much less than 1800kg to furnish a Transit.

demographic · 23-11-09, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Danny_Two

There's a web site for people that own Transits, Christ.

You're currently on a bike site, that one gives out specific info regarding Transits.
There's masses of bike specific sites out there, not much information outside that specific bike but usually a shit load better than asking a group of random strangers in General Mayhem.

I've found it pretty useful on times when the manuals not helped much.

Funners · 23-11-09, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Gedge

Go and weigh a caravan ..I think you might be surprised

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aksherly Jedge owd bean....
the average van is around the 1200-1400kgs mark that all up MTPLM with gas bottles the lot in...
mine is a heavy fooker at 1860kgs MTPLM and theres a few heavier but they have air con and big fook off fridges, fixed beds etc...
Caravans are usually quite good at weight saving, the average van will be around the 1000Kgs are ex factory before all the equipment goes in ! and still leaves a payload of around 200kgs for clothes etc

demographic · 23-11-09, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean

I didn't read it all, but I didn't see any mention of using stainless, just ordinary steel, also how would you weld stainless to mild?

But an excellent piece of workmanship, well done.

Some of its done in stainless but the bodywork is in mild.

But when its needed you can weld 18/8 stainless to mild steel with a 24/12 (or thereabouts) rod.

big bald one · 23-11-09, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle

That's what's prompted me to say it....my 'rents are caravaners and I know their 4 berth 'van is ITRO 1800kg. Now a tranny van doesn't have all the running gear (well it does, but it's not part of the payload) and the total 'furnished' space is less, hence I think it would be much less than 1800kg to furnish a Transit.

The payload for a SWB Transit is in the region of 900-1200kg.

murcan · 23-11-09, 19:29

So is the guys wife cheating on him? Are his kids in jail? Is he going to be running untaxed wine over from Bordeau? Why is this in general mayhem, what with no wankers and cunts and dodgy chavs involved? And where's the bloody gun compartment? The whole things a bit too nicely done for a pikey.

He's an immigrant isn't he? Probably a Pole taking someones job. That's it, isn't it? Why we oughta.....

Incredible work. Not many would have looked at the original van and thought, "Oh yeah, that should do nicely".

Zanx · 23-11-09, 19:37

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Originally Posted by big bald one

That's not a camper, that's a bike racers van.

You'd be surprised how the weight adds up, I'm half way through aconversion and can feel the difference already.

plywood lining and insulation, plywood wet room walls and door, toilet etc, kitchen units and appliances, fridge, gas bottles, inboard water tanks, slide out bed materials, other seating, beer compartment.

That's just for starters.

Agreed, even basic fitouts can weigh loads. My LDV Spakkvagen has skeletal fittings but the combination of that lot, a 16ply plywood floor and all the GRP and associated metal supports and 100kg of leisure battery means that it'll JUST top 25-30mph, flat out, valves bouncing in second gear up the bit of the M11 that leads from the Redbridge Roundabout to the M25. It's a bitch, hopefully I'll never have to drive it again.

demographic · 23-11-09, 20:10

The metal packing crates that new motorbikes come from Japan in should make a pretty good and lightweight frame for that sort of thing I imagine.

Danny_Two · 23-11-09, 20:11

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Originally Posted by demographic

You're currently on a bike site, that one gives out specific info regarding Transits.
There's masses of bike specific sites out there, not much information outside that specific bike but usually a shit load better than asking a group of random strangers in General Mayhem.

I've found it pretty useful on times when the manuals not helped much.

Yes, but people who ride bikes are generally 'into' bikes, people who drive Transits just deliver shit.

Didge · 23-11-09, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Danny_Two

Yes, but people who ride bikes are generally 'into' bikes, people who drive Transits just deliver shit.

Is that why many Transits have a strange smell inside?

Taipan · 24-11-09, 11:43

Love build threads.

Thanks for posting that BBO, I greatly appreciated that.

ipsga · 24-11-09, 12:18

my old hymer (peugeot SEVAL based)was rated at 3850kg (upped from 3500), which after adding 2 adults and 100l of water gave a grand payload of.............

370kg

add a 90kg scooter, 2.2kw genny, her shoes and that's your lot.

hopefully he'll add airbags for the back axle and put a short ratio g/box in it because you really notice the weight on the hills

edithe looks like he's into bikes as well

The Reverend Counter · 24-11-09, 15:57

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Originally Posted by big bald one

................ Sit yerself down, it's a long thread.

your not wrong, but well worth it. Top post, thanks

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Camper conversion, stainless steel style!

Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle but some bedding and cupboard weighing in at 2 tonnes? Surely not... That's not a camper, that's a bike racers ...

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