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Old 10-11-09, 14:56   #76
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you can tell Gedge is a reformer, I believe the 6 cell maglight is the traditional one to use
Yooman rites innit... 6 cells is cruel ( unless your name is JORDAN..)

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Unecessary. Simple review of trial by say 3 judges. Could be done in a day.
Ah, the troika. Worked a treat in Stalin-era USSR. The very model of fair, objective justice
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Well I thought the program was pretty rubbish to be honest....
I caught the repeat last night, and am inclined to agree.

It seemed a bit confusing, not really going into the depth of a believable drama or seeking to make any points of relevance about Glitter's character, his trial or the execution process.

I was amused though, to find the music played in the programme as 'radio programmes' (Gary Glitter returns to #1 in the charts on downloads though banned by the Beeb ) sounded like Glitter but they didn't have the balls to actually play the real music.

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I caught the repeat last night, and am inclined to agree.

It seemed a bit confusing, not really going into the depth of a believable drama or seeking to make any points of relevance about Glitter's character, his trial or the execution process.

I was amused though, to find the music played in the programme as 'radio programmes' (Gary Glitter returns to #1 in the charts on downloads though banned by the Beeb ) sounded like Glitter but they didn't have the balls to actually play the real music.
I thought the idea was to as I think it said at the beggining, create a vision of britain as close as possible to how it is now but with the death penalty. The idea with some inevitable bias and manipulation was to see how comfortable you the viewer was with this portrayal of britain with the death penalty. Attempted objective media coverage, Politician torn between conscience and popularity, interviews with ordinary people and dissent and condemnation from the rest of Europe.

Brilliant, chilling and thoroughly believeable I thought.
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I missed the first few minutes so had to make up my own mind without the benefit of their precis Yes it was clearly set in a very much contemporary vision of Britain but to me there were too many instances where a very big suspension of disbelief was required. It certainly didn't explore anything in any sort of depth.

Was it about public attitudes to paedophilia? The legal process? Railroading new laws through? The people who had to administered the system? The dilemmas faced by the juries called on to require death when evidence may not be cast-iron? The difference between a guilty and not guilty plea? Could they not have just written in a defendant charged with murder, where you didn't know if he "did it" or not?

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I Was it about public attitudes to paedophilia? The legal process? Railroading new laws through? The people who had to administered the system? The dilemmas faced by the juries called on to require death when evidence may not be cast-iron? The difference between a guilty and not guilty plea? Could they not have just written in a defendant charged with murder, where you didn't know if he "did it" or not?
Had to be Gary Glitter to get the viewers.

Not about Paedophilia it was just taking the most emotional issue but not child murder as this would have been counter productive. It was manipulative in my opinion. The law seemed to have been enacted about 2 years earlier and there was very little empahsis on the evidence or the legal process except that it was something we were familiar with.

Basically business as usual with one difference. Then get obvious low brows like gary Bushell and Anne Widicombe ranting on about society out of control and namby pamby middle class liberals along with some hysterical woman who wasnt even a victim and put them right at the centre of the consensus. We know these people exist and used to be taken seriously not so long ago.

Juxtaposed against this is Europe where all Namby Pamby liberals take their holidays threatening to throw us out and then reluctantly backing down. Again chilling though preaching to the converted here. How ashamed would I and the people I respect feel of being British if this sort of rabble driven barabarism was going on.

Finally an expericed American councillor having to be brought in to manage the condemned man showing how far we had slipped form the path having to get help from the Bibble punching hicks who elected George Bush.

The execution showed a damaged snivelling pathetic inadequate being put to death in the name of what? Justice for his victims. The chances are he was a victim himself at some point, child abusers usually are and we feel sorry for them until they become adults and become abusers themselves.

Scary

Purely about trying on for size what it would feel like to have the death penalty back.

I dont think we ever will get the death penalty back. Politicians despite all their shortcomings are in my opinion any way too refined a bunch to alow the inhumane underdeveloped elements in society have their way. They see enough of a cross section of life to understand its not just about good and evil like in some religious fairy tale to help the morally inadequate behave themselves.

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I think about the only thing that struck a note of realism for me was the circus that sprung up around it, and that's hardly surprising.

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I was amused though, to find the music played in the programme as 'radio programmes' (Gary Glitter returns to #1 in the charts on downloads though banned by the Beeb ) sounded like Glitter but they didn't have the balls to actually play the real music.
Probably due to copyrights or suchlike. I think he still owns the rights to a lot of his stuff.

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