Originally Posted by Yarbles

However Eastenders hasnt finished yet so lets wait and see

Got a good laugh there.

Originally Posted by Pax

Bit of a weird thing to say? I mean, if they wanted to off themselves, I'm sure they would just do it, not wait for permission?

Because it's so much nicer to take a pill and go to sleep, than to hang
yourself in a cell.

And......it's hanged, not hung.

Originally Posted by Proto

.............The death penalty must never return. Barbaric is the right word.

In your opinion. Please don't confuse your opinion with fact (or even with my opinion).

Originally Posted by Gedge

Before hanging someone you need to have a system in place that tries to avoid miscarriages..therefore there will be a trial, followed by umpteen appeals, then a judicial review followed by an appeal to the Home secretary etc etc..
Going on the cost of a lawyer these days ( coupled with what a meal they would make of the process) it would probably end up costing more than just locking them away for the rest of their days..

Unecessary. Simple review of trial by say 3 judges. Could be done in a day. Result is either sentence confirmed, or sentence commuted (if there is any shadow of doubt).

Justice doesn't need 17 layers of appeals as in the US model. lawyers will argue (but then they would - lawyers stand to gain from a multiple appeal process).

Originally Posted by Cousin Jack

In your opinion. Please don't confuse your opinion with fact (or even with my opinion).

Even the most prolific hangman this country has known, Albert Pierrepoint had this to say on the subject...

"I have come to the conclusion that executions solve nothing, and are only an antiquated relic of a primitive desire for revenge which takes the easy way and hands over the responsibility for revenge to other people...The trouble with the death penalty has always been that nobody wanted it for everybody, but everybody differed about who should get off."

Originally Posted by demographic

Even the most prolific hangman this country has known, Albert Pierrepoint had this to say on the subject...

"I have come to the conclusion that executions solve nothing, and are only an antiquated relic of a primitive desire for revenge which takes the easy way and hands over the responsibility for revenge to other people...The trouble with the death penalty has always been that nobody wanted it for everybody, but everybody differed about who should get off."

I don't recall Mr Pierrepoint as being the world' greatest thinker, and it is just possible he might have felt a bit of remorse towards the end of his career. Either way, I don't see his opinion as any more relevent than mine.

Originally Posted by Cousin Jack

I don't recall Mr Pierrepoint as being the world' greatest thinker, and it is just possible he might have felt a bit of remorse towards the end of his career. Either way, I don't see his opinion as any more relevent than mine.

I reckon its fair to say that neither you nor I are the world greatest thinkers either and Albert Pierrepoint will have at least spoken to more murderers than either of us to base his opinion on

I think the programme was succesfull in that it brought the viewer in contact with the actual execution. I reckon if the 54% were to seriously countenance the reality of what they are proposing more would be against.

What about Anne Widicombe and Gary Bushell, you would hope these people are becoming museum pieces.

TBH I would be deeply ashamed of this country if we re introduced the death penalty. The majority in favour was much bigger I believe around the time or Thatcher and even she was in favour and we didnt get it back. So chances are we will continue our development away from Barabric Ignorance in my opinion of course.

Originally Posted by Yarbles

Its gratifying to see how people have responded to this. So far no Hysterical nutter has come on screaming for public hanging and accused everyone who dissagrees of being a paedo.

However Eastenders hasnt finished yet so lets wait and see

Yeah, where is Twigman?

Originally Posted by Yarbles

TBH I would be deeply ashamed of this country if we re introduced the death penalty.

I could live with you being ashamed.

Originally Posted by Yarbles

The majority in favour was much bigger I believe around the time or Thatcher and even she was in favour and we didnt get it back. So chances are we will continue our development away from Barabric Ignorance in my opinion of course.

You are probably right that we will not re-introduce the death penalty. However I still think your opinion is wrong, but c'est la vie (or mort).