Water damaged engine?

Mr. Dazzle · 09-11-09, 12:50

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Originally Posted by MyLittleStudPony

Maybe it has locked but it's possible the water stoped it sparking before it got drawn into the engine although with the starter clutch turning it does sound like hydraulic lock.

Maybe it's just got a flat battery?

Sould point out that the starter clutch can't slip like a clutch-clutch, so unless you heard the 'tap-tap-tap-tap' you get from the starter when the battery's dead, the starter is probably fecked too.

2ptjoe · 09-11-09, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Rolfe66

If you hired it and fucked it, take it back to the sea and fuck the door lock and ignition and phone the police that the car is stolen.

is still the correct answer

Rapdon · 09-11-09, 22:08

I've only seen two hydraulic locked engines, one cracked head, one with bent con-rod. Hope that helps!

cheb · 09-11-09, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Rolfe66

If you hired it and fucked it, take it back to the sea and fuck the door lock and ignition and phone the police that the car is stolen.

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Originally Posted by 2ptjoe

is still the correct answer

And don't forget to bitch and moan when your next renewal comes in or the insurance co. give you a really hard time if you have to make a claim.

CoolHands · 09-11-09, 22:43

it's alright he's in the caribean or colombia or somewhere.

No need to declare that on insurance when back home, surely.

icarus1859 · 10-11-09, 00:16

Its fucked.

I took the plugs out and got the water out (the cylinders were full) but it still won't turn over.
No water in the sump, so maybe its bashed a valve and seized?

My only option now is let it all dry out and claim ignorance.

choc-ice · 10-11-09, 07:40

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Originally Posted by icarus1859

I took the plugs out and got the water out (the cylinders were full)

That's very bad. I agree with your "fucked" diagnosis

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Originally Posted by icarus1859

My only option now is let it all dry out and claim ignorance.

Does your insurance cover accidental damage like this? Does the hire company have insurance to cover it but it's not offered to the customer? If so, can they be encouraged to make a claim instead of getting it from you?

Mr. Dazzle · 10-11-09, 08:44

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Originally Posted by icarus1859

Its fucked.

I took the plugs out and got the water out (the cylinders were full) but it still won't turn over.
No water in the sump, so maybe its bashed a valve and seized?

If the cylinders were full of water, it'll have more than a broken valve....as I'm sure you know, engines work by going "suck-squeeze-bang-blow" - have you ever tried to squeeze water?

DefTrap · 10-11-09, 09:58

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle

have you ever tried to squeeze water?

I'm in that part of the Venn diagram marked 'no' and 'better things to do'.

Mr. Dazzle · 10-11-09, 10:18

I'm more in the "someone says it's impossible" and "feel a compulsive need to try" part...

Byker28i · 10-11-09, 10:24

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Originally Posted by SteveD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolfe66 View Post
If you hired it and fucked it, take it back to the sea and fuck the door lock and ignition and phone the police that the car is stolen.

still appears the best answer.. or burn the bastard so all the bent valves / conrods cant be examined

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Originally Posted by icarus1859

I'm about 8,000 miles from Weston

Any access to explosives. Could it die in a terrorist attack?

Blackvisor · 10-11-09, 10:43

Drying Out Your Flooded Car - Popular Mechanics

Beancounter · 10-11-09, 11:08

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle

....have you ever tried to squeeze water?

Nope. I'm a dunce when it comes to physics/mechanics/hydraulics - is water used in hydraulics as I always thought special hydraulic fluid was used?Genuinely interested, btw.

MyLittleStudPony · 10-11-09, 11:09

Of course you can compress water a little. Just not nearly as much as air. Sounds like it is well and truly fucked.

As I get older I'm increasingly finding honesty's the best policy ... but if they're going to rip you off as a result I'd be tempted by the making it look like it's been stolen strategy.

I think you'll be hard pushed to remove all traces of the incident and you can't drive it back to the hire company and surely getting it towed there in the middle of the night is not without risk.

I'd either go with honest or two it somewhere remote and fuck the door and igntion lock (unless it's one of these new, unstealable cars).

Blackvisor · 10-11-09, 11:13

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Originally Posted by icarus1859

Its fucked.

I took the plugs out and got the water out (the cylinders were full) but it still won't turn over.
No water in the sump, so maybe its bashed a valve and seized?

My only option now is let it all dry out and claim ignorance.

How did you get the water out if it wont turn over? is the starter turning the engine over, it may just need the electrics drying out, have you checked all the fuses?

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Water damaged engine?

Originally Posted by MyLittleStudPony Maybe it has locked but it's possible the water stoped it sparking before it got drawn into the engine although with ...