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"Taking photographs in public" thread in "General Mayhem"
Originally Posted by erizo didn“t say it would be justified, just he was lucky. I guess that's part of the problem..... We should feel free ...


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Old 17-09-08, 13:26   #46 (permalink)
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didn“t say it would be justified, just he was lucky.
I guess that's part of the problem..... We should feel free to perform legal activies without getting home of an evening and saying to ourselves..."Sheessh...was lucky I didn't get arrested today !!! Must celebrate!!"

Suspicion, fear mongering and paranoia.....it'll get us nowhere. I can't begin to imagine what on earth went through that PCSO's head that made him think he could approach that guy. Did he think he'd caught a terrorist in the act of preparing for an attack or something?? If he'd been armed, would he have pulled his gun??

A few years ago, this wouldn't have been a problem, to be honest. The copper would have been less confrontational, more friendly, and less inclined to kick up a fuss in the first place.... and equally, the camera man would simply have asnwered the questions politely. The police have done this to themselves, as expressed a couple of days ago by a senior officer of some sort in the press.
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Old 17-09-08, 13:30   #47 (permalink)
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The police have done this to themselves, as expressed a couple of days ago by a senior officer of some sort in the press.
No, the goverment has done this to the police.

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No, the goverment has done this to the police.
Possibly....but the average joe bobby on the street doesn't have to behave like he enjoys it/agrees with it...
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...but you could say that about everything.
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A few years ago, this wouldn't have been a problem, to be honest.
A few years ago it would have been a PC rather than a PCSO though.
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A few years ago it would have been a PC rather than a PCSO though.
That's a whoooole different thread, right there
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That's a whoooole different thread, right there
LOL - PCSO's rather than PC's, Teaching Assistants rather than teachers, Senior nurses rather than doctors....


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A few years ago it would have been a PC rather than a PCSO though.
6 years ago it wouldve been me and trunch grinning my stupid head off
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On the other thread there was an interesting comparison between right and wrong of photographing a dead biker and photographing dead in Georgia for instance.
Mebbe so, only problem was that despite the amount of hand wringing on the other thread about the biker being pictured the fact is that the biker wasn't pictured at all, it was only the motorcycle.

Now I know Ten can be slightly abrasive on the odd occasion but a lot of that other thread seemed to me to be getting back at him for other occasions rather than people worrying about a picture of a borken motorcycle being shown.

Where do we draw the line?
Not show aircraft wreckage on TV cos someone died in a plane crash?
Fairly sure that in the 120 years that my house has existed that somone must have died in it, is showing a pic of my house too much for the delicate sensibilities?

Anyway, back on topic..

The police are paid to uphold the LAW, not to make up new laws on the spot.

Thats parliaments job


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Mebbe so, only problem was that despite the amount of hand wringing on the other thread about the biker being pictured the fact is that the biker wasn't pictured at all, it was only the motorcycle.


The police are paid to uphold the LAW, not to make up new laws on the spot.

Thats parliaments job
THe other thread diverted from TBs account into a debate about photographing accident scenes and in particular fatals, and mention was made of dead bodies...No-one as far as I can see made any mention of TB photographing the body...its why a new thread was suggested..

TB went from asking 'was I right' to defending his actions when it was seen that a large proportion of posters said 'no'
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It did look v.bad....

while we were waiting, I took a shot of the bike... do you think that was insensitive?
Its worth noting that he recognised it was a potentially serious/fatal RTI and yet still felt it was okay to take ( and then post)photos. As has already been discussed, doing so could potentially compromise any trial and could also cause distress to any family members that may then find it being endlessly debated on the internet..

Do you have a link to any cases where the police have made up new laws on the spot? or did you mean interpretting existing laws to suit circumstances? ( something which they are trained to do and which the courts can then decide on the merits of that interpretation)..

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Do you have a link to any cases where the police have made up new laws on the spot? or did you mean interpretting existing laws to suit circumstances? ( something which they are trained to do and which the courts can then decide on the merits of that interpretation)..
Err, isn't that whats the main link posted at the start of this thread?
Or am I missing something


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Err, isn't that whats the main link posted at the start of this thread?
Or am I missing something
One of us is what laws have been made up??

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One of us is what laws have been made up??
Theres some missunderstanding going on here...

Are you saying that the gimpy PSCO shown at the start of this thread telling the bloke to stop filming was doing the right thing?

Him saying it was done because the cameramans behaviour was suspicious was OK was it?

Cos he just looked like a jumped up little pillock trying to stop something thats was perfectly legal to me.
Now don't get me wrong, you are usually the one who gives the good information regarding the way the law works so because of this I don't quite believe you are condoning his behaviour.

Are you?


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Theres some missunderstanding going on here...

Are you saying that the gimpy PSCO shown at the start of this thread telling the bloke to stop filming was doing the right thing?

Him saying it was done because the cameramans behaviour was suspicious was OK was it?

Cos he just looked like a jumped up little pillock trying to stop something thats was perfectly legal to me.
Now don't get me wrong, you are usually the one who gives the good information regarding the way the law works so because of this I don't quite believe you are condoning his behaviour.

Are you?
No I am not...but you said they were making up laws on the spot..go back and read all that I posted.. I am guessing that you mean interpretting laws (existing ones) badly..which in the case of the PCSO I agree he was ..

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